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Just Humans: Interview with Eilidh Direen, Daniel Brooks, and Edward Williams.

Episode 44

First Broadcast @ Edge Radio, Friday 28 July 2023



We chat with the brilliant minds behind the indie film ‘Just Humans’, a heartwarming story of a young man’s adventures and misadventures in his first year of university. ‘Just Humans’ is a proud product of Big Love Productions, an independent Tasmanian film company that showcases local talent, music, and locations. Our guests today are Eilidh Direen, the writer and director of the film, Daniel Brooks, the assistant director and production manager, and Edward Williams, the cinematographer and technical supervisor. Don’t miss this opportunity to hear from these amazing filmmakers and learn more about their creative process and vision. ‘Just Humans’ will be screening at three different venues in Tasmania:

Book your tickets now and get ready to laugh, cry, and relate to ‘Just Humans’, a film that celebrates the joys and challenges of being young and alive.



Transcript

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CRAIG NORRIS

Alright. Hi. And you're listening now to media mothership here on Edge Radio, 99.3 FM as always, this is your host Doctor Craig. And we explore everything in and around the world of mere and popular culture. You can listen to us live via your FM system on 99.3 FM or on demand at at radio.org dot AU. And we also are streaming via YouTube and Twitch. You can find us by just searching media mothership. If you want to reach out and touch us in a. Literate way, a text based way you. Can SMS us on 0488811707. And our monkeys will be listening and watching that SNS feed to take your comments. You can also leave a chat message on YouTube or Twitch. Well, that out of the way. It's a real pleasure to say that on today's show, we have special guests in to discuss their fantastic indie film project We've. Want to ailee ailee it's a. Pleasure to to have you in. What's your role in this film project on? It's just humans, right that we're talking.

EILIDH DIREEN

About yes, it's called just humans and I'm the writer and director of this movie.

CRAIG NORRIS

So Eileen, the writer and director and. Then we have Daniel Daniel, what's your role responsibility? Your crimes that you've committed?

DANIEL BROOKS

So I was the assistant director as well as the production manager.

CRAIG NORRIS

My sisters remember. Right production manager, yes. So that will that will involve like scheduling Google Calendar.

DANIEL BROOKS

Yes, and sort of. Make sure data is kept properly and running around sets and like moving people around and organisation. Creative intuition. Perfect.

CRAIG NORRIS

So we've got the director, writer, Ailey, the manager, production manager, production manager, Daniel. And now joined the third Member of this. Triptych. This Musketeer Ridge, the. What? What else comes in?

EILIDH DIREEN

Threes, trio, trios, tripod.

CRAIG NORRIS

Tripod. Yes, this tripod of people, Edward and what was.

Speaker

Right.

CRAIG NORRIS

Your role on just humans.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

I am the cinematographer and the technical supervisor. Please be kind, the images are the best.

CRAIG NORRIS

I could produce well. Fortunately this is radio. So what we're. What we're going to play.

EILIDH DIREEN

They were very beautiful.

CRAIG NORRIS

Thank you. What we're going to play for you now is the trailer. The 39 second trailer to get people in. The mood do you reckon? I mean, I could ask you to explain to people what we're watching while we're live.

EILIDH DIREEN

Thing to it. Yeah. Well, you're gonna hear a conversation. Brief conversation between the main character and his mum.

Speaker

OK. Yeah.

CRAIG NORRIS

Right, alright, so this is a brief conversation between the main character whose name. Andy and his mum and this is the trailer for just humans, which is hasn't it hasn't had its premiere yet, right. The premier is coming so.

DANIEL BROOKS

That would be on the the 19th. Yes, 19th of.

CRAIG NORRIS

We'll talk about Premier.

EILIDH DIREEN

I'll just.

CRAIG NORRIS

August month, August. And if you keep. Listening we'll we'll give details if we can watch it. By the moment. That's just humans movie trailer, and this has been freshly minted, right? This only came out. A month ago.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Yeah, a month ago.

DANIEL BROOKS

About a month. Yeah, actually might be over a month now, probably more like month and 1/2.

CRAIG NORRIS

Excellent. All right. So let's pump up those views with the just humans movie trailer.

Speaker

So how was your last day?

Speaker 6

I'm just so glad I never. Have to talk to. Any of those people ever again.

DANIEL BROOKS

That's pretty bad.

Speaker

Good luck at your bad attitude.

Speaker 6

I will have a good time. You know, people go. There because they actually want to learn and they want to have a fun time while they're doing this.

Speaker

To the shadow.

Speaker 6

I'm going to get a new group of friends and, you know, get fit and try new things. This is going to be my hot go someone.

Speaker

That way. To the side. Great music.

EILIDH DIREEN

Thank you. Can I? Can I go on a tangent? Really quickly and tell you the.

CRAIG NORRIS

Tangent. Oh.

EILIDH DIREEN

Story about the music.

CRAIG NORRIS

Eight I. Yes, please.

EILIDH DIREEN

It's it's really wholesome. So that song that plays during the trailer is called Shadows by our sound Editor and Co musician Simon Kelly. And the reason it came into being. Was there's a scene during just humans where some characters have a yard party and one of the main characters is singing a bunch of songs, presumably of her own composition, and I didn't write anything for this scene and it got to the day before filming and I realised ohh, I've gotta make some music for Emma the actress to sing. So I put together. I got out my ukulele and I wrote a bunch of different 10 second song snippets. Which were all trash, like they were not meant to be good. I sent those videos off to Emma and said, can you just sing these tomorrow in the in the film and I'll. I'll play along on my ukulele, and that's all that it was ever gonna be. And one of one of those song snippets was just this one line that goes. I stare into the shadows. What are they saying to me? And Simon later on, I think post filming suggested. It would be really funny if he turned that into a full length, properly produced song, and then we played that somewhere else in the movie over like a scene of characters at the pub or something to imply that in the in the world of the movie, this song really exists and Emma or Angel rather is the name of her character during the yard party scene is doing a cover. Of that song. So the man took this 10 second, like video of me playing my ukulele. And he turned it into a full song, and it sounded so cool. And we played it over the trailer.

CRAIG NORRIS

Excellent. Are you going to transmedia utilise this and have a CD?

EILIDH DIREEN

Using one day, we'd love to have a vinyl album.

CRAIG NORRIS

Because we are a radio station that. Plays music indeed.

DANIEL BROOKS

So this is a.

CRAIG NORRIS

Rare moment that actually played music in. My show. Hang on, Edward. Yes.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Craig, are you are you saying? That you can play music. It's weird on the.

CRAIG NORRIS

Radio cause I don't on this show that allegedly, yes, the show is doing.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

I never thought.

CRAIG NORRIS

It's not gonna. It's not gonna go popular. I think. I think the future of radio really is just talking a lot inconsistently. But this music thing might. Turn from a fad into a mainstream phenomenon.

DANIEL BROOKS

It might potentially, yeah.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

I think didn't Elvis Presley. Wasn't he a musician?

DANIEL BROOKS

Use that.

CRAIG NORRIS

As opposed to the actor.

EILIDH DIREEN

Are you thinking of Elvis Costello?

Speaker

Ohh no yeah.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

That's right. No, I thought. I was thinking of the inventor of music, sorry.

CRAIG NORRIS

Well, politics already, SMS now zero. 4888.

Speaker

477.

CRAIG NORRIS

Yeah, great. Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it? As you bring creatives together on a project? And this is just like an indie project. That drew together a lot of like minded creative souls and. The generosity that came through from that right, I mean the story of the music.

EILIDH DIREEN

Absolutely half our cast just acted for free. Like I tried to pay them and they. Said no, thank you.

CRAIG NORRIS

Ohh yeah, Full disclosure so I'm in.

DANIEL BROOKS

This. Yeah. Wow. This is in the.

EILIDH DIREEN

Doctor Craig yeah.

CRAIG NORRIS

Movie. So you know, all of my audience, I encourage you to enjoy this, this film.

EILIDH DIREEN

Come see the movie. Come see doctor.

CRAIG NORRIS

Craig, so I, yes, I I I was, I was talking roll sorry. I'm I'm it's as. If I've not realised this answer right.

EILIDH DIREEN

And you did a great.

DANIEL BROOKS

Now you absolutely did a great.

EILIDH DIREEN

Job, we laugh every time you watch your sessions.

CRAIG NORRIS

Job. Yeah. Would you like to interview? Eat then about my. Life because I think that.

DANIEL BROOKS

Like that? That might be a good.

Speaker

Idea might.

CRAIG NORRIS

My ego knows no bounds.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

So, Craig, when you first received your your scene, what what did you think? Of your character.

CRAIG NORRIS

It's a great question. Thank you so much for asking. I've waited for this question for a long time. Well, this is also gonna be my awards acceptance speech. Yeah. When it's so, it will send. A little rehearsed. Because yes, I have to thank, you know, watching behind this in commentary to various movies like the. The reason I absolutely.

DANIEL BROOKS

Have a fixation.

CRAIG NORRIS

I think, yeah, yeah, let's not use this as therapy about me, so.

DANIEL BROOKS

On at the moment.

CRAIG NORRIS

Yeah. No, it did bring a lot of. Lynn, who create had great creative Brent Benson, the the music sounds like a real part of. It would be difficult to get music. For a indie project I know you guys have done. A number of yeah, pieces of work. So I guess if we if we. Look a little at this music tangent while we're here. So the music for just humans we heard. In the trailer, yes. And generally, Daniel, you were we had a drink last night. You were. Explaining to me how. Music works when you're wanting to set up an indie film, a film in general is. Is like. You can buy it.

DANIEL BROOKS

Yeah. So if you're interacting with a musician and you just want to Commission a whole bunch of music for the film, you can do that obviously, and then you'd listen in that circumstance, you you, as the Commissioner, would own the music.

CRAIG NORRIS

Yeah. So you commissioned it. You've given them like almost like a seller, no, sorry, kind of you paid like a.

DANIEL BROOKS

Yes, it's like it's commissioned for you. So you can have it essentially, yeah. And just just depending on like what your agreement is with them.

CRAIG NORRIS

100 bucks and I see, yeah.

DANIEL BROOKS

Like there's no royalties, royalties, and usages that they can get out of it too. And it's too straight. But if you're wanting to get something that they've already produced themselves, that's that's. That's getting the rights to use it licences, yes.

CRAIG NORRIS

Right. Yeah, right. So licencing, right, so that would. Be like if you wanted to do David. Bowies life on Mars.

DANIEL BROOKS

And you wanted to pay $2,000,000.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

That would be if.

CRAIG NORRIS

$1,000,000 limited budget.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

If you're dealing with musicians that. Established musicians with a big record label behind them. You're looking at minimum quarter of a million.

CRAIG NORRIS

Quarter of a million.

Speaker

For like one song for one song. Yeah, yeah.

CRAIG NORRIS

Quarter million and that's pocket change, that's like.

DANIEL BROOKS

Yeah. And we know this cause we have. Looked into it, it's.

CRAIG NORRIS

Yeah. What was the? Can I ask you some detail? What? Was the song you wanted?

DANIEL BROOKS

I don't remember which song.

CRAIG NORRIS

To get and you hit that money. It was.

DANIEL BROOKS

I don't think.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

It was a. Specific song? I thought it was just, I thought.

Speaker

Right.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

It was just, yeah.

DANIEL BROOKS

We were, we were sort of playing around with it and we were just curious and I don't remember what song we used as an example, but it was something like 1/4 of a. $1,000,000 quarter of a.

CRAIG NORRIS

Million and again you know. So my mind boggles when I start trying to translate the money that films cost into, you know. Like like this weekend. For instance, in Kingston this is a bit of. A plug but. It's a community related plug so we get. Away with it. They've got the model train. Expert yes, right. That's a hobby and involves money. And it can get expensive. But that pales into comparison with the yeah.

DANIEL BROOKS

Trying to set up a film.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Yeah. Ohh I mean. The the the amount of money to get equipment. I mean. That that's already looking at six grand up. I mean you.

DANIEL BROOKS

For your basic essentials.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

For your basic essentials, you. Cause you've you've also got. To remember, you've got to edit this on a computer, yes. So there's there's. Costs associated with that as. Well and.

CRAIG NORRIS

Like a lot of hidden costs then, right, you, you got your Adobe or whatever, but you might be using that for other things.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Yeah, a lot. A lot of hidden costs.

CRAIG NORRIS

But yeah, that's. Not cheap. No or final cut.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Or and and look. We've we've got some fantastic phones with great cameras on them now. And you've got some great little microphones and and you can probably you can probably use your phone and grab a few cheap microphones, cheap lapels, you know, few 100 bucks, make a really great movie. But the the issue there is that the limitations are so. You could. There is basically no. No, sorry. No, no, no. What's the word I'm looking for? No flexibility with what you're able to do with it, so you're able to produce really high quality movies with that equipment, yes, but it's all going to be. Dialogue. Someone talking? Yes, opposite someone else talking you.

Speaker

You've got to stop.

CRAIG NORRIS

Gotta still work within the restrictions of that platform. If it's a mobile phone, it has some advantages, gives you that kind of. Gorilla did you? Do any mobile phone work in this?

EDWARD WILLIAMS

No, we did not. Ohh sorry. We were shooting. No, no, no. Gorilla shooting. No.

EILIDH DIREEN

Oh, no, no, no. We we had phone. Yeah, yeah.

CRAIG NORRIS

Yeah, yeah, yeah, fairly habits. What's it? What is gorilla?

Speaker

No, we we we're phone.

CRAIG NORRIS

Gorilla footage is when you're sneaking around and filming.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

I wouldn't know what you're talking about, Craig. Yeah. Wait.

Speaker

Is that gorilla?

CRAIG NORRIS

You guys are all above board. We're not going to at all. So do you think? But yeah, so OK so.

DANIEL BROOKS

In terms of in terms of phone?

CRAIG NORRIS

Mobile phones you can do.

DANIEL BROOKS

Footage. Yes, there is a a number of scenes in the film that was shot through a mobile phone.

CRAIG NORRIS

Any mobile phones? Yes. You're you're kind of Nokia.

DANIEL BROOKS

I wish no one would live.

EILIDH DIREEN

English that would have been really funny. Can I give some context into why yes, so the structure of just humans is it's it's like. A collection of stand alone scenes from life in Tasmania, kind of loosely tied together by a plot, and the plot is just about this guy who goes to union. It's. About his experience. In uni and so most of the scenes are about him interacting with specific people who sort of recur throughout the movie. But I thought when I was writing the screenplay that it could be fun to include some scenes, which I called intermissions, and they were meant to represent like, like almost documentary style. Captured live moments of this same characters exploits in.

Speaker

Right.

EILIDH DIREEN

But and I thought and I I scripted them so that they're not actually documentary, but I they were meant to look like. Ohh, here's a break from the plot, and here's just a scene that might have happened at some point of this guy bumping into one of his mum's friends in the cat and. Fiddle or something? And I was like, if we if we shot those on a phone. And had it like slightly lesser video or audio quality and made it look like we kind of scrounged up all this like random ghetto footage off the Internet and put that into our movie. I just thought that might be fun.

CRAIG NORRIS

And has it translated to?

EILIDH DIREEN

Ohh yeah, the.

DANIEL BROOKS

Ohh yes they are. They are quite good.

EILIDH DIREEN

You mentioned for like some of the. Best parts of the.

CRAIG NORRIS

Movie. So you were saying? OK, so just humans description I've got is that it's a slice of life comedy film about a young man's first year of university made by independent Tasmanian film company Big Love Productions. Written and directed by Ailey. Just humans features local actors, locally produced music, and some of Tasmania's most iconic sights, sounds and smells. So the first question is big love productions. They're big players. Huge. How did you get those guys involved?

DANIEL BROOKS

Oh yes.

EILIDH DIREEN

Well, well, I'm best friends with one of them. And I I called up a favour.

DANIEL BROOKS

She just. Knew us.

CRAIG NORRIS

Big love productions. Why? Is it called big? Love Productions because it's you guys.

DANIEL BROOKS

Yes. Yeah.

CRAIG NORRIS

Right. Daniel. Edward.

EILIDH DIREEN

And well, it's it's you guys. But in in the spirit, it's me too.

Speaker

Right, yeah.

EILIDH DIREEN

Yeah, yeah. We can't tell you exactly why without spoiling. One of the funniest scenes in the.

Speaker

Movie. Really.

CRAIG NORRIS

Big Love Productions has, like the name is has a.

EILIDH DIREEN

Yeah, yeah. Sandal. Yes.

CRAIG NORRIS

Spoil the one that's great. Wow, that's fantastic. So big Love Productions came together for this film specifically.

DANIEL BROOKS

Retroactively, it was together for our previous work I guess, but it. Was only name. In the last couple. Of months.

Speaker

Right.

CRAIG NORRIS

It's why did you come to the decision that you needed to name up our production entity lecture?

DANIEL BROOKS

For for future endeavours. Ohh wow.

CRAIG NORRIS

Yeah, we and. We won't spoil that. Will we spoil that? We won't spoil that.

DANIEL BROOKS

We're not spoiling, I don't think at the time.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

I don't think we've.

EILIDH DIREEN

Got there'll be more cool movies in.

CRAIG NORRIS

There'll be more and they'll.

EILIDH DIREEN

There. Yeah, yeah.

CRAIG NORRIS

Be more interviews, yeah. To talk about.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Them we don't. We don't wanna be here talking about just humans and then spend about.

Speaker 1

Fair enough.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Most of your show talking. About Daniel and I stuff.

CRAIG NORRIS

Big love productions. Alright. So yes, as I was saying, so the the films a slice of life toast for you, Ellie. How did you come up with the idea for this script for just humans first year? Any students story and what what some of the themes and messages you're trying to get through from it?

EILIDH DIREEN

I had been away from Tasmania for a couple of years doing some volunteer work and I came back in 2021 and I thought I'd have a house party to get all my friends together and celebrate being back and for a number of reasons it was. I felt quite an awkward house party. And I was calling. My friend Anna Terese. I'm naming her because she's a musician and she's.

CRAIG NORRIS

Very cool. Do we maybe? Do we play her music here?

EILIDH DIREEN

We should. We should. That's that's for another time. But I was calling Anna to debrief, and I was talking about. I was dissecting this whole party, and I'm one of Anna's hobbies is just social.

CRAIG NORRIS

Yeah, we'll get in touch.

EILIDH DIREEN

Dynamics and psychology and stuff like that. And she just had a good chuckle and she said someone should make an indie film about awkward Tasmanian social interactions. And I said Ohh you might you might be. Onto something there. And I sat with that for a day or two and suddenly I had all these flashbacks to my uni years and and things that really happened to me and to Daniel and to Teddy. And we we tell each other, we tell each other these stories that they became myths almost again and again and again.

CRAIG NORRIS

Real stories.

EILIDH DIREEN

And they just all came flooding back to me and I thought you could. You could really make a movie out of this. So I just wrote them all down and then I turned that into a screenplay, and I suppose the themes in it. Well, the main theme is it. It's basically about a journey that I think a lot of us go on, which is when as you're growing into an adult and you're going out into the world and interacting with lots and lots of different people, many of whom are eccentric or in in your perspective, at least eccentric or obnoxious. Different or whatever, there's an initial discomfort with other people and even like contempt towards other people, or like, you feel tempted to look down on other people, but then eventually, hopefully, as you mature, you get to this point where you realise that humans are just human. And that that is a quote from the 1996 cult hit classic anime Garza's Wing, which are we're big, big, big, big fans of.

CRAIG NORRIS

All right. Guys, he's wing. Yeah, and it's it's. So it's an.

DANIEL BROOKS

Animated it's a three episode OVA from 96.

CRAIG NORRIS

Yeah, it's an enemy. Yeah. Gone. Yeah, I feel like.

EILIDH DIREEN

You should watch it.

DANIEL BROOKS

You you must have watched the the dub though Craig, because that's the reason.

Speaker

I wanted to hate it.

EILIDH DIREEN

Ohh yeah, yeah. Watch, watch the.

DANIEL BROOKS

It's ohh.

CRAIG NORRIS

Dub it's humans, after all, are just humans. Yeah. Who says that? Is that a human? That says that.

DANIEL BROOKS

That's a that's a yes. There is a human.

Speaker

Yes. Yeah.

EILIDH DIREEN

It's a philosopher who shouts all his. Dialogue very loudly. Wow.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Yes, you you have to watch the.

CRAIG NORRIS

Dub. Yes, alright and it's. Gaza's yeah wing Ghazi, who's ghazi?

DANIEL BROOKS

Knows who knows?

EILIDH DIREEN

Who we. No one ohh. Finds out who? Ghazi.

Speaker

It what a?

DANIEL BROOKS

Great. It was actually directed Craig by Yoshiyuki Tomino.

CRAIG NORRIS

What else has he done?

DANIEL BROOKS

Was the creator of. Gundam no.

CRAIG NORRIS

Way that's huge.

EILIDH DIREEN

And it was meant to be like a 26 episode series, but it for one reason or another, it got condensed into three episodes. So it is manic.

Speaker

Wow, it's.

CRAIG NORRIS

Yeah, and that's the inspiration of just humans.

EILIDH DIREEN

Kind of like I took that line from just humans and I made that the moral of the story.

CRAIG NORRIS

Or it's a it's it's a lot, yeah. Well, I think you should take it to Japan.

Speaker

I mean I.

CRAIG NORRIS

You know, it's such a clear link here. Think about. Yeah, one of the Tokyo Film Festival. This is Japanese Film Festival happening now. Yeah, right. Yeah. In in Hobart. Yeah. On demand. Yeah, we can get this in there. Tangent.

EILIDH DIREEN

Don't always love nothing more. Yeah. Yeah, it's a Japanese film, basically.

CRAIG NORRIS

We'll see. Sorry I am. Getting off on attention please.

EILIDH DIREEN

No, that's pretty much everything. I was going to say.

CRAIG NORRIS

Now first you need students I. Knew the birth of. You as first as a lecturer. Again, another Full disclosure, full word disclosure now lecturer. Due in first year.

EILIDH DIREEN

So did.

CRAIG NORRIS

I do remember one of the stunts I'm gonna. Call it stunts. Prepared for this, were you that I heard that you or that you confessed to me that you pulled was you created a Pokemon game based on the lecturers? Yes. Ohh.

EILIDH DIREEN

Yes, of course. Which features in the movie, although you.

DANIEL BROOKS

Wouldn't really know that it would sound right.

CRAIG NORRIS

It's just an Easter egg, yeah.

EILIDH DIREEN

I think we made that in 3rd year UNI but we we created this game called Watashi No Sensei which sort of more or less is Google Translate Japanese for my teacher and it was like a trading card game based on real or fictional figures that we found inspiring.

DANIEL BROOKS

It was about 30 million.

EILIDH DIREEN

And ironically referred to as senseis, some of these sensei. That include the fat controller from Thomas the Tank Engine pingu's dad.

CRAIG NORRIS

Ohh wow yeah. Dad, the wiggles.

EILIDH DIREEN

Yeah. And then we made like an extension specifically around. Yeah, yeah, yeah, specifically around UTAS lecturers and tutors. And you were a card in it.

CRAIG NORRIS

Like GLC, like a some kind of right. Totally. Yeah, I hope I was one of those ones which, who is it? Paul Logan. Or someone have to? Spend millions of. Dollars to get. Now who has it?

EILIDH DIREEN

Ohh yeah, you were an ultimate ranked sensor.

Speaker

Got the.

EILIDH DIREEN

You had the highest SP. As P stands for Sensei point.

CRAIG NORRIS

I really, yeah. I mean, so talented here that that really should get made and kicked out. I'm going to announce it right here on air. We're setting up a Kickstarter.

DANIEL BROOKS

I I agree.

EILIDH DIREEN

I'd. I'd actually unironically love to.

DANIEL BROOKS

I would do. It would be so lovely.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

There's going to be a lot of legal issues there. We've got.

EILIDH DIREEN

Not if we make parody version.

CRAIG NORRIS

Ohh yeah, yeah, we'll get consent. No approval.

EILIDH DIREEN

And one day when? We're like bajillion is and can afford to make our own equivalent of like the Lego Movie, which has, you know, since they will be our movie.

CRAIG NORRIS

I reckon that's going to be something like what is it? The Jerry Seinfeld. Every episode will have a Superman statue somewhere in shots during an episode. Yeah, you, you. I are you starting to? Settle second Easter egg that you're feeling needs to be in material creating like something that's a good luck charm.

DANIEL BROOKS

Sort of, but not. In things we've already done.

CRAIG NORRIS

Is it? Books that you're wearing when you're doing. A shoot or? No any good.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Luck. No see, I think. We well, I I personally am fairly tired of having everything part of the same universe and ohh this is connected to that and that's connected to this and and this theory puts this person in with this universe and you know how in 1990 this character was here. And and they were cast in that movie over there in two that, you know, even just saying it it's hectic. And I think that for me personally, each piece is its own peace and it deserves. Its own spot.

CRAIG NORRIS

But you're not gonna stop the fanboys? No. Reading into your.

EILIDH DIREEN

No, they can have their.

Speaker

Deck and and. Yeah, yeah.

DANIEL BROOKS

Granted, we have discussed possibilities of people who were in just humans cameoing in future projects as similar, if not the same person, yeah.

CRAIG NORRIS

Are there any returning people between projects? So far, I mean just humans is the first. Piece that's out there that.

EILIDH DIREEN

Yes, but not the first piece chronologically.

CRAIG NORRIS

You guys have worked with, right? I'm not.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

I I think a good way of saying this is. We we try to make friends wherever we.

DANIEL BROOKS

Go. Yeah.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

And unfortunately that means that we go oh, oh, I I really wanna work with this person again. I really wanna work with that person again, so we end up creating this huge list of people that we just want to get back in to work with and then on our next project. We're inevitably going to meet up with more people that we go ohh, we have to work with that person again so.

Speaker

Yes, please.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

You know, there's that well, hopefully, hopefully you.

CRAIG NORRIS

You've been feeling this very location where doing our radio showing right now has a bit of media magic too. This has been the filming location for one of ABC TV's most highest rated comedies.

Speaker 6

Ohh is that?

CRAIG NORRIS

So yeah, I feel the name of it. It's the ones that you know, Hastings, the one sit down in Hastings Rose Haven season one, I think had a community radio station feature in like.

DANIEL BROOKS

Not no memorable highest rated.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Sorry, is that?

CRAIG NORRIS

Two or so episode. They filmed it here at Edge Radio community station, where we're sitting right now. So. So you guys should also do that?

EDWARD WILLIAMS

How? How do they? Get the cameras.

CRAIG NORRIS

It's a really interesting question. Have a look at some shots I'm planning on seeing if I can get the rights to it, but anyway, I'll. I'll, I'll it's. Because they actually shot it like at eye level for about where, yeah.

DANIEL BROOKS

Intriguing in a room this size.

CRAIG NORRIS

Yeah. Difficult day to make, but they did.

Speaker

It you have to.

CRAIG NORRIS

Look at that Rose Haven. I think it's season one, episode 5. Features a number of shots in here where they they they blacked out some of this and then they squeezed in a camera. I think behind where you are, Daniel. So they had like a yeah, it's amazing. Insane.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Right. Well, I think to get professional looking shots in a room this small. I mean, that's pretty.

CRAIG NORRIS

Good. Well, have a look at my YouTube channel at for my professional shots right now. Live with my fisheye goo GoPro. Because you can't get any. Better than that, it looks like a security camera.

DANIEL BROOKS

It does. I like the aesthetic.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

I think another thing to point out, sorry to interject but. We're all fairly new at this. We we all just sort of went and tried out something with me being the exception I've been. I've been making movies for a very long time, but. The first six to seven years of that was me, not really doing it seriously and not really understanding the theory behind why things were done a certain way or how to how to get the best out of the equipment I had. So it's only been in the last two or three years that I've actually understood. How to get those shots and how to how to make something look pretty on screen?

CRAIG NORRIS

So Edward, can I ask you then? This doesn't lead to question. I've written down. How did you approach the cinematography and visual styles for Jeffs? Human? What were some of the influences you had? When you were saying inspirations for.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

I'm going to be honest, Craig. Amongst friends and and the. Listen, is there all 1,000,000 millions of viewers, millions of viewers? I'm sure sorry, Craig. So.

DANIEL BROOKS

Double digits of listeners digits.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

As as of. Making just humans, I was still practising so the so I didn't really have too much inspiration for shots, so I was just. Trying to get my head around the whole thing. There there are some. Shots in in the movie that are a bit questionable.

CRAIG NORRIS

In terms of.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Composition and where I shot them from and lighting and. Blocking and all sorts of stuff like that. However the. Towards the end or towards the middle.

DANIEL BROOKS

Sit more towards the middle.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Yeah, somewhere along. The way actually it it all started clicking.

CRAIG NORRIS

For me, right?

EDWARD WILLIAMS

So in this. To be there are going to be some questionable shots. However, the vast majority of them I'm proud of and and there are some shots in there that I that I still look at and go. Wow, how did I do that? You know, cause I I I I did not expect to produce. Anything nearly as good as what we've produced.

CRAIG NORRIS

Ohh that's great it's. Great to come out that other side.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Oh, it's it's fantastic.

DANIEL BROOKS

Just just the step up cinematography wise between our last project and this one is quite quite. Gracefully massive, I would say in the despondency which you were also in.

CRAIG NORRIS

The last project being the smallest fee, yes. I am pretty famous. Yeah. If you hadn't realised Craig. No. That's doctor Craig. Dr.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Isn't it? Yes, yeah, yeah.

CRAIG NORRIS

Let's get the branding. That's right. Despondency. Yeah. And we'll get around to that. Yes, I I do want to touch on that at the end, but a question. Then maybe for. You all is. How did you find collaborating together, communicating with each other and the rest of the crew? Each day because it's. Spread over a couple of weekends.

DANIEL BROOKS

So was it 9 days? Yeah.

EILIDH DIREEN

4 1/2 weekends.

DANIEL BROOKS

Four, half. Yeah.

CRAIG NORRIS

How did you find? The collaboration communicating between each other, saying it up. I mean a lot. Of that would be fully on your.

DANIEL BROOKS

Yeah, that's mostly my job. So I sort of would describe my role in this particular.

CRAIG NORRIS

Shoulders. It's managing.

DANIEL BROOKS

Arrangement and in this project as a conduit of information. So I will translate whatever creative energy comes out of here. And and I hear you. You mean by you?

CRAIG NORRIS

The divine.

DANIEL BROOKS

Ohh of course from you. Yes, of course.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

This is radio, remember.

DANIEL BROOKS

It is radio. It was streaming.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Only some.

CRAIG NORRIS

It's multimedia.

DANIEL BROOKS

Yeah. So I would take the creative energy that would be swirling from Eileen's brain translated into something that he can. Understand and.

CRAIG NORRIS

The cinematographer.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

He he being me.

DANIEL BROOKS

The cinematographer? Yes and. And instruct him as into in. Instruct him. So that he knows. What he's doing?

CRAIG NORRIS

In a polite way that you. Can tone down all the swearing. You would never. I know. I'm sorry.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Well, I I think a a simplified version of that is either will come up with the information Daniel will interpret it and then. I will execute it.

CRAIG NORRIS

Is there an example of that?

EILIDH DIREEN

Well, there were many times. When cause cause I don't have a. Very visual imagination, so I would have the idea of the the vibe of the scene we were putting together. I'm trying to think of a good example of the scene, the barrel. Yeah, sure. So you know, there's a scene where we're having a barrel at the uni and all, like the only thing that mattered to me were that people are in it. It's a bit awkward and the main character is having a conversation with one person and that that was all I had to go on. And so I'd say to Daniel. Ohh, we're doing this shot of the barrel scene. It's probably got to be like a mid to wide shot cause it's gotta fit a lot of people in it. I'm thinking we do it in this corner of the school that we're shooting at. That's all I've got. And then Daniel would visualise an actual shot in his head, like he'd go. OK, this specific part of the building would look good. Let's put the people here, here and here and then. You would say that to Teddy, Teddy would put the camera in roughly the right spot. Daniel would put the people in the right place and then Teddy would go alright. Can you, you know, can Soren take a step to the left, or can Brandon come forward or whatever until it looked good?

CRAIG NORRIS

Because there is a bit of a myth, I think about the director being the Beal and Endal that that it the director is micromanaging everything.

EILIDH DIREEN

Have to have made so many movies to get to that point.

CRAIG NORRIS

So instead surrounding. Yourself by talented people that each can do their job well or well enough. Means, yeah, the the director doesn't need to basically have and do the whole film in there. Head down to the minutiae. You can just see just broadly. Like this shot to have this, and then Daniel knows what he's doing and tells it to. Edward, who knows what he's doing. And and and so. Did you think that? Minds like like. Were you surprised at the end of the day you're seeing how the shots? Were coming together.

EILIDH DIREEN

There were lots of really delightful surprises, like some some of Teddy's shots were really beautiful. I was probably like initially. Like dismayed by, I guess, how little actually fits into the eye of a camera, if that makes sense. Like how little you can actually squeeze into a shot unless you're shooting from like, 100 metres away. Yeah. And using like a powerful lens. And so there were times. And I'd say to Teddy. Ohh, can we can we? Yeah, a shot with this much stuff in it. And he'd say, no, we can't do that. And I'd be like. Why have my eyes can see it? Why can't the? Camera see it. But aside, aside from some like learning curves like that, I. Was really really. Happy and a lot of the time, like pleasantly surprised by what happened on the screen.

Speaker

I agree with that. I would.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Look, I've grown up around cameras, so. I view the world as a camera, so I I I mean I'll actually be walking around the street and going ohh getting a shot with my camera.

EILIDH DIREEN

Walking camera.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

That's not here from that Street Corner pointed that way would look good.

CRAIG NORRIS

Because this location would be tricky to. Yes, yes. Cramped. Studio what it does give, I guess, is that authenticity of being a sports station. But yeah, the the difference would be translating. As you're saying, I like in my eyes. I see it all, but in terms of bringing in a quality studio level camera or anything trying to capture that in a way that then works on screen, yeah.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Because don't forget, you'd have to put. A bunch of lights in you. Or or or use two or three lights really well, yeah.

CRAIG NORRIS

Did you have the lightings coming down, which means we're?

EDWARD WILLIAMS

All getting shadows. Yeah. And then you'd have to have some sort of feel. Like. Yes, I know some technical words because.

EILIDH DIREEN

And I remember those from first year films.

Speaker

Oh, OK.

CRAIG NORRIS

Because my hidden plan here is to get Edward to tell me how I can make. My movie in.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Here. No. OK, let's do it.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah.

CRAIG NORRIS

Well, actually they're just on that. They do want to talk about the idea of how you have to compromise creative vision to fit within all of the pressures that you have in terms of budgets. And yes, to trying to find a location that's going to work, I mean, what was that struggle like as you were trying to get that creative vision? To to work with on all the constraints of money and location times.

EILIDH DIREEN

Well, there's compromises during filming and then compromises in post production as well. In filming, for example. Because so many of the scenes in just humans were based on real events or they were based on, like, really strong ideas, I had about what an interaction might look like. I would have my dream performance in my mind and but the actors that I was choosing were just people that I know. Like friends and family and friends or friends of family and family or friends of friends. And yeah, I I had to cast people. People sometimes, according to vibe and sometimes just according to who is physically available on this day, and I'm all the acting, was amazing. Like, that's a whole nother tangent. We can go on normal people, not trained actors are really excellent at acting. Depending on what you ask them to do. However, there would be times.

DANIEL BROOKS

Yeah, definitely.

EILIDH DIREEN

And I would just be trying to say to so and so can you do this and can you make it sound like this and they just, they just would. Like perform it in their own interpretation and it was different and I was like, alright, well, that's what. It looks like now.

CRAIG NORRIS

Because you hear these stories. Of like George Lucas directing the Stanley Kubrick? Maybe where George Lucas will just like, give no direction. No, you're kind of being very kind of like, well, you know, he he just says these words.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Right. It's like probably that's right, right.

CRAIG NORRIS

Stanley Cooper, you hear these stories like they'll get up to. Like take 100 or 200.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

127 takes is the.

EILIDH DIREEN

Record. Wow, I was dying after 7.

CRAIG NORRIS

Oh, my God. Yeah. And and.

DANIEL BROOKS

Or eight, yeah.

CRAIG NORRIS

Were the what were some of the takes. Like, I mean, seven or eight was pretty much as.

DANIEL BROOKS

Much as you felt comfortable, longest was about 8:00 here.

EILIDH DIREEN

Yeah, and and that kind of actually fits in with the theme of compromise on set. So like 11 compromise is what, what are the actors actually gonna be able to do for you? Another is environmental constraints. For example, we filmed two days at primary school to do all our classroom scenes, and on the first day they. He didn't tell us. Or maybe like, actually. No, they did tell me. And I just didn't. Think that it would be an issue, but there was a dancing class going on in the gym next door and so we had all this like, sound like all this noise from the room next door while we were trying to film our classroom scenes and.

CRAIG NORRIS

Oh wow.

EILIDH DIREEN

Simon, our sound recorder and editor, was a wizard and managed to get us some musical audio, but it was very stressful during filming it sounded like. Crap. And sometimes they'll be wind or weather or.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

The solution? Whatever. Yeah, the solution to a lot. Of that background noise. At one stage he actually went outside so that the the the wall of the building would block off the sound from the other room. Yeah, yeah.

EILIDH DIREEN

Yeah, and just pointed the shotgun mic through the open door or window.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Yeah. Yeah. So, so it would block out a.

EILIDH DIREEN

Whatever it was.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Lot of the sound coming from the from the other room.

CRAIG NORRIS

Yeah, rather than being kind of in. In the room.

EILIDH DIREEN

Yes, yes, the two, no. The three scenes that all had got up to six or seven or eight.

DANIEL BROOKS

And being able to hear things next door.

CRAIG NORRIS

Yeah. Wow.

EILIDH DIREEN

Pics were all done in uncontrolled areas, so one was at a bus stop and there was a lot of traffic at the bus stop and cars were driving through our shot and we had. To keep starting again.

CRAIG NORRIS

You saying this last night? You saying like you chose a day and? Time and location you thought would be.

EILIDH DIREEN

I chose the Sunday morning in the Claremont. I didn't think there'd be that many cars driving up that random St.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Yeah, and guess. What, whilst we were setting up nothing, nothing, nothing. So it took about half an hour for us to set it up and and decide what we're doing and where we're shooting from. And then the moment we call action or the moment. Million cars and not and sustained traffic.

DANIEL BROOKS

To to the point where I ended up deciding to swap where we were filming from and it was still still a problem.

EILIDH DIREEN

And it's. Issue that was one another was in a cafe that is owned by some friends of mine and we need to do some cafe scenes, but it was still like they didn't close the cafe for us, so there were still customers. There was noise. There were cleaners running around that. We were right across the hall from the bathroom, so people making noise as they went to go and use the bathroom, we got 7 or 8 and it was really complicated. Dialogue and poor Dan and Mark did such a good job. They were our featured extras in that scene and. They just they've got this most bizarre dialogue to say and they kept, you know, they it took them a couple of goes to get all the. Lines out. Hmm. And that was an interruption. Yeah, yeah.

CRAIG NORRIS

It's difficult to. Keep it fresh, right? I mean it, it sounds.

DANIEL BROOKS

Rehearsed. Exactly. Yeah, you're.

EILIDH DIREEN

Yeah. And the third, a third I I I mention all of these cause they're all kind of funny. But the third one was a scene that we did outside at the school.

CRAIG NORRIS

Not careful, yeah.

EILIDH DIREEN

So it was like Societies day at the university and we had all these trestle tables set up and they had tablecloths. It was very windy, the tablecloths kept flapping. Around everywhere we had to get our lighting. Person Ella and one of our actors, my cousin Maya, to lie on the ground and hold the tablecloths so that they wouldn't. The corners wouldn't flap up and disrupt the shot. There was birds on.

CRAIG NORRIS

And then we're just off camera.

EILIDH DIREEN

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't see anything. And now this scene that we recorded was a very short conversation in the script. It was 3, maybe 4, very brief lines of dialogue. It was.

Speaker

OK.

EILIDH DIREEN

So you guys keep bees? Yep. How much to join? 10 bucks. That was the conversation in the script. I won't spoil what actually happens, but the actors on the day decided to ad Lib an entire conversation. It was very funny. And they kept cracking themselves up. They would they they would get 2 words. And start just giggling and and and they were losing it. And we were like guys, like, come on. Come on. You can. You can do it, but it took them like 8 takes. I think to get the lines out. And keep a straight face. But it was worth.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

But it was.

DANIEL BROOKS

Worth it? Absolutely.

Speaker

It it was the.

DANIEL BROOKS

Worth absolutely right it is.

EILIDH DIREEN

Funniest. Funniest scene. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was.

DANIEL BROOKS

Potentially one of the most iconic pieces of the film.

CRAIG NORRIS

Wow. Yeah. So that all comes together finally. Were there any like you were saying with that? Road scene. You needed to really were there any? Shots you had. To give up on or were you able to? Salvage them all. I actually don't think.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

I don't think so, no.

DANIEL BROOKS

We did this.

EILIDH DIREEN

I think we got all of that shot.

DANIEL BROOKS

Time, but we were.

EILIDH DIREEN

There were some. We decided that we. Didn't need on the day. Yeah, we yeah.

DANIEL BROOKS

That you always have links.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

See, we went in with an attitude of. If if we have the choice between doing it the right way or the lazy way we do it. The right way?

CRAIG NORRIS

Yeah. You want that? Yes. You want to.

DANIEL BROOKS

Yeah, yeah.

CRAIG NORRIS

Develop that skill. As well, you want to. Push yourself.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Yeah. So if if there was a shot that. Was not quite. Right. It would. We'd we'd spend a few minutes actually discussing what was wrong with it. Yeah, and usually it meant. Someone had to get some big spool to wheel across to stand on to get a piece of paper and move it down about 5 centimetres. And yeah, you know that. That whole taking two minutes just to do just to move a piece of paper down a little bit, but it fixed the shot.

DANIEL BROOKS

Hmm, but thankfully, we were never, ever pressed for time. We were very good schedule.

EILIDH DIREEN

Ohh, we were on a couple. Of occasions, but we did very well.

DANIEL BROOKS

But not, not not in ways that were hyper stressful though.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

I think it was. I think it was. One of the first days? Yeah, very hot day.

DANIEL BROOKS

Yeah, it was.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

A hot day in a very poorly insulated room towards the end. A few beverages had had had been had, so our so some of our hydration levels were down and we were tired. And we were a bit. Upset. We just wanted to get it over.

EILIDH DIREEN

Some of us.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

And done with.

Speaker 6

Were some of us some.

EILIDH DIREEN

Of us were having. A great time.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

I I was upset and I just wanted to.

CRAIG NORRIS

Go. And what happened?

EDWARD WILLIAMS

We finished.

CRAIG NORRIS

It you pushed yourself.

DANIEL BROOKS

And he battled through his sadness.

EILIDH DIREEN

Yeah. And we are so grateful that he did.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

No, no, no, no, that that wasn't. No, no, don't. No, no, it's it's fine.

CRAIG NORRIS

Thank you. So to change tax slightly, if after watching this people are thinking what the media tourism schedule should be, what are some of the locations that you filmed in? What are some of the locations that are gonna become tourist sensations after this? Like people are going to? Go. Oh, that shot I. Want to go there and? Check that out. What? What are some locations you feel?

DANIEL BROOKS

Well, one of.

EILIDH DIREEN

The probably one of the nicest looking shots in the movie and and one that we've used for a lot of promo, which is the shot of the two main characters by this. By the sea, basically with a little campfire was done at this random beach in Dover that I don't don't.

DANIEL BROOKS

The specific location of which I. Would like to remain secret.

EILIDH DIREEN

Ohh yes sorry this. Don't come to our special beach and.

DANIEL BROOKS

Don't come to this place. And it's ours.

EILIDH DIREEN

Sorry and like what? What I can't even. Think of anything in that.

Speaker

It's good fishing.

CRAIG NORRIS

Spot it's got like.

EILIDH DIREEN

It's just, it's just our special beach crate.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

You're asking too many questions.

CRAIG NORRIS

But see now.

Speaker 6

You you send it as a secret.

Speaker

You see.

DANIEL BROOKS

What I'm trying to do is engage people in to to try and find the place themselves.

EILIDH DIREEN

Yeah, that's true. Take photos and see if it. Matches up with the shot.

DANIEL BROOKS

I know those are Google Maps whizzers out there I can. Now find it.

CRAIG NORRIS

That's true. Yeah, there are those people that amazingly get it within a few kind of screenshots.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

I I don't think there. Are actually too many places really because because. There there are.

EILIDH DIREEN

We tried to keep them all. Like not anonymous, but generic, if that makes sense.

CRAIG NORRIS

Yes. So locals recognise maybe. Yeah.

DANIEL BROOKS

In some cases, yes, definitely.

EILIDH DIREEN

Launceston actually. Yeah, this movie's.

CRAIG NORRIS

Right little Launceston.

EILIDH DIREEN

Gonna be like a full like tourist like trailer for the city of Launceston. Great because of a 3 minute montage towards the very end.

DANIEL BROOKS

Oh, that's definitely could be, yeah.

EILIDH DIREEN

Of the movie. Which? One of the prettiest things I've ever seen right when you.

DANIEL BROOKS

Beautiful film.

CRAIG NORRIS

Were out there doing Launceston tourist? Yes.

DANIEL BROOKS

The favour.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Yeah, well, you know they they should thank me because.

EILIDH DIREEN

Once Upon a time, Teddy and Edward and Daniel decided to film a short film in Launceston. Hmm, and so they spent a day taking the bus out there, doing a bunch of shooting, taking the bus back home, and they made a short film. And I thought in my screenplay I would pay homage to that. So in the my 2 main characters decided to make a movie and they decide to go to Launceston and they spend a day shooting in Launceston and we made a montage of them doing that in Launceston.

CRAIG NORRIS

Hmm, it came difficult in the editing stage. What do you do with people in the background? And you were mentioning this last night that that one of the headaches can be random strangers suddenly.

EILIDH DIREEN

That's a great example of compromising.

DANIEL BROOKS

Yeah. So you've just gotta be really careful while you're doing it. And if they? Yeah.

Speaker

Because it's.

CRAIG NORRIS

Illegal like you. Can't put someone if they're not given consent so.

DANIEL BROOKS

Yes, concerns legal concerns.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

My understanding is that it's technically not legal. Sorry, technically not illegal. However, if someone then goes up and says, please stop showing this, then you have to stop showing it and you have to. You have to pull it from everything. Like you cannot re.

CRAIG NORRIS

Edit. Yeah, well, we.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

You could probably re edit it.

DANIEL BROOKS

But but by the time that's become a thing, it's too.

CRAIG NORRIS

That will take.

DANIEL BROOKS

Time it takes time.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

And and and.

CRAIG NORRIS

It's the momentum of releasing it.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

In that situation. For me it's it's not so much a legal issue, it's more of a moral issue. Yeah, I I I sort of. Yeah, I've.

EILIDH DIREEN

Yeah, I agree.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

As though people have a right to kind.

EILIDH DIREEN

Not be randomly in someone's new year.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Yeah. Yeah. Mind you, I have. I have come up with a potential solution to that for future. You just have release forms handy. Yeah. And you? Know 50 bucks and say here sign this release form. Here's 50 bucks. Yeah.

DANIEL BROOKS

That which is a much better alternative than having to be ultra careful all the time and. Compromising on your vision.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Hypothetically, 50 bucks. I'll look into the legality of.

Speaker 6

That, yeah.

CRAIG NORRIS

Yeah, consent form could be, yeah.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Quite the yeah.

CRAIG NORRIS

What about 10 minutes left? What kind of the skills? Because you were talking about this being a kind of learning curve. So now that it's completed and around the corner will be premiered? What are some of the skills? You think you've come away with how do you? Think you've developed to tackle future projects?

EILIDH DIREEN

For me, probably like a lot of event management team type. Yeah. Skills, just. Terms of you know if the scene needed to be in a pub, then you'd had to book a venue and you had to talk to the people. You had to get your actors there. You got to get. Your equipment there, you got your props. There lots of. Lots of organisational skills, but also I've never directed anything before and never directed people before and that's like. I believe I did a good job.

CRAIG NORRIS

Daniel Edward.

DANIEL BROOKS

For me, I think. It's it was realising that I'm actually pretty good at. What is blocking? So it's. It's putting things in the scene to interact with each other at specific moments and then visualising how it's all going to move. Around and basically act.

EILIDH DIREEN

Right, this movement.

DANIEL BROOKS

Yeah, technically, typically actors and props.

CRAIG NORRIS

So you have an actor walking over the subway to pick something up. Yeah, and in your head you've thought about how that it's very.

DANIEL BROOKS

How that interacts with everything else in the scene and.

EILIDH DIREEN

Difficult to make that look natural on camera, turns out.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Yeah. And you can also blocking refers to. Camera movements as well.

DANIEL BROOKS

Yes, and camera.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

I I think a way to make it look natural is not to have people walk in off the wings of the of the shot cause it.

DANIEL BROOKS

Right. Because then it looks like theatre.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

It looks like someone's just walked in from stage, right. Gone. Hello. I am here. Yeah. Suddenly. Yeah.

DANIEL BROOKS

And I think that for all, there's that, but it's also more I'm sort of it's more confidence in organising what's happening, because I've done it in the past as well as directed at the same time. And this was a good opportunity just to mostly focus on that on set on set management.

EILIDH DIREEN

Stuff which was good cause if I just say to Daniel, can we please have a party scene? Daniel would have to tell people where to stand. What sort of hand gestures to be doing if people were move like walking in and out of the shot, he'd tell them when and. Where to do that? I was just happy with people at the.

CRAIG NORRIS

Body. So I have dates and times. For where this. Is coming up next, so we'll talk about that and then future projects, so dates and times. So we've got. Saturday 19th of August, Sunday, 20th of August and Monday 24th. So three nights back to back. The first two are at the.

DANIEL BROOKS

Get up in a row.

CRAIG NORRIS

Winner community all. Yeah. And the last one is at the Don Bosco Creative Arts Centre at the Glenorchy GYC campus. GYC is.

EILIDH DIREEN

Oh yeah. Yes. So if you're familiar with Guildford Young College, that's their performing arts centre of Mill Street, England, Archie.

DANIEL BROOKS

Good with young.

CRAIG NORRIS

And what they did the 1st 2:00 because I'm trying to say which one I'm going to play this last night.

EILIDH DIREEN

You're not coming. To all three.

CRAIG NORRIS

Well, I'm going to try to collect more other. Collecting things I can get.

EILIDH DIREEN

It could be.

CRAIG NORRIS

Ohh anyway the 1st 2:00. Right is a bit more of a DIY job where you've got like you've got a, you've got your own screen that you're setting up.

DANIEL BROOKS

Yeah, yeah.

CRAIG NORRIS

Speakers. Yeah, more can go wrong, which makes me feel like that could be the more exciting one to be part of. Like stories will come out of that one. Everything will go right though.

DANIEL BROOKS

Absolutely, yeah.

EILIDH DIREEN

Well, yeah.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

And we did film another project there and it's sort of where I am and it's kind of the central sort of taruna is the central hub for for. Production company, if you could call. It that?

EILIDH DIREEN

A little bit cosy. Yeah, it's very. It's in the the skin keeping. With the aesthetic of the film, yeah.

CRAIG NORRIS

So kuzia venue taruna for anyone looking for that, and the last the the third night, then Glenorchy. What's the vibe there? That's a more splashing. Production, right, that's.

EILIDH DIREEN

Guilford young. Has a really nice performing arts centre. It's got its own inbuilt AV system. There'll be technicians on hand to help us run the thing. It'll it'll be. It'll be nice to. Be fancy, it'll be like the gold. Class experience.

CRAIG NORRIS

Yes, gold class so.

EILIDH DIREEN

We will not be selling fancy food or champagne though.

CRAIG NORRIS

But you will feel nasty taken. Care of, I guess with the audios visuals, seats.

EILIDH DIREEN

It'll it'll be. It'll be. Yeah. Nice. Comfy.

CRAIG NORRIS

Where can people go to find out more about?

EILIDH DIREEN

That best place would be to go on to trybooking.com and just look up just humans screen.

CRAIG NORRIS

So that's Tri booking or TRYTRY is literally at try booking and try booking this try booking?

EILIDH DIREEN

GR. Look up just humans film screening. You should come up with three separate events, one for each screening, because that's just what dry booking made me do. You can also we've got posters up around the place with QR codes that you can use to book tickets, or you can just remember these details and rock. Up on the day and.

CRAIG NORRIS

Ohh you're selling.

EILIDH DIREEN

They will. Tickets. Yeah, they'll be door. Sales as well, but we wanted to try and.

CRAIG NORRIS

What time is?

DANIEL BROOKS

It 7:00 PM.

CRAIG NORRIS

7:00 PM alright, so yeah, rock up to the Tarina community hall Saturday 19th or Sunday 20th at just before 7:00 PM. Two moving.

EILIDH DIREEN

Yeah, yeah, it might start closer to 7/15/15.

CRAIG NORRIS

Or head over to the Creative Arts Centre Glenorchy. Do you I? See was that.

DANIEL BROOKS

Give young college from college.

CRAIG NORRIS

Campus again 7:00 PM yeah.

EILIDH DIREEN

And for the benefit of your listeners, Craig, maybe you could put some of. These details, yeah, they will be.

CRAIG NORRIS

Available on show notes that you can get to via the podcast YouTube Twitch sites as well as yeah, my Facebook page, my Instagram page.

EILIDH DIREEN

And my friends, can you please? Yeah.

CRAIG NORRIS

My tiktok page, all the pages. So check that out now future projects any teases. I know you mentioned that other project despondency got like can I put you on the spot to get a date for that.

DANIEL BROOKS

So yes. On the spot it is tentatively late September.

CRAIG NORRIS

Late September, you heard it here. First, people will be much late September despondency, starring, not me, but I am in there in the background.

Speaker

Some other people.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Yeah. So that one's a project that Daniel and I worked on a very different flavour of project and we made it when when we were going through a very different stage in life. So our attitude towards filmmaking has evolved a lot since then. We're probably more open to ideas, and we're generally more relaxed. Yeah, around. The filmmaking process.

CRAIG NORRIS

But you're still open to. Get it finished and wrapped up. For it and they're.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Yes. Yeah, yes. Ohh yeah. And and you know.

DANIEL BROOKS

Singing out so.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

It it is a. Very for, for me at least a very. Cathartic story and a very.

DANIEL BROOKS

And it does say a lot. Yeah. And it does have a lot of things in it that you, if you think. About the Moy. Ohh this is a very nice film.

CRAIG NORRIS

Well, we'll have to get you back in to to debrief from that. I only Daniel Edward. It's been wonderful having you on media mothership. Any final words? Words is kind of like what advice?

EILIDH DIREEN

Please come and watch our. It's just really funny. It's got really beautiful music.

DANIEL BROOKS

I would advise you do that because it's good, yeah.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

I'm gonna give you some actual advice.

CRAIG NORRIS

That's very serious. Yes, Edward.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Don't. Don't take the filmmaking process so seriously like like, have respect for it and have respect for the people you're working with. But if you're so serious that you that you.

DANIEL BROOKS

Lose sight of enjoying what you're doing.

EDWARD WILLIAMS

Then you you end up creating a a bitter twisted version of what you. Should have.

EILIDH DIREEN

Made those shooting days were some of the funnest days ever, and they wouldn't have been if we'd been stressed and grumpy the whole time.

DANIEL BROOKS

Very fun.

CRAIG NORRIS

A wonderful way to end this interview. Thank you. How much I, Lee, Daniel and Edward keep listening. It's radio. 99.3 FM will have Kpop unlimited around the corner as has been media mothership for another week.






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